#5915 - 03/09/10 06:58 AM
Israeli Organ Theft, Debunking Media Myths
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Charming Lady
Registered: 10/16/09
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Loc: Israel United States
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Israeli Organ Theft, Debunking Media Myths Looking back at last years organ theft scandal I wanted to review what was actually discovered and how the press has reacted.The story really started in the 1980’s, those years saw the first allegations from Palestinian families that dead relatives had been returned to them in a condition that would point towards organ theft. Almost thirty years later not much had changed. The reports were largely ignored and only given real attention in Arab countries. It was perhaps a less exposed claim among many others against Israel and Jews in general. It is important to point out at this time that there are many ‘blood libels’ against Israel and Jews that have never been proved and are in my opinion figments of peoples imaginations. It saddens me when people claim to be pro-Palestinian but seem to be more anti-Israel in all their words. To support Palestine is often to criticise the country that occupies it, but certain ‘pro-Palestinains’ spend their days on Zionist-evil-baby-killer tirades that accomplish little and only expose them as racists. In my opinion the fault of Palestine’s suffering partly lies with people willing to defecate their hate within the same pool of people wanting to support an equal and just solution that eludes Palestine to this day. We all need to be adult consumers of information in this age, a story told by a reporter is not automatically true, there is a burden of proof required, I personally assume everything is untrue until proven otherwise. The initial reports of Israeli organ theft had no real proof behind them, only what families were willing to tell journalists. Many people happily jumped on the band-wagon after Sweden’s Aftonbladet reported stories of organ theft. I think this was a mistake, would these same people believe every word they were told if the report was about IDF soldiers testifying that Israel didn’t commit war crimes? I highly doubt it. Repeating such inciteful claims is not fair and would hurt if the situation was reversed. That is not to say that the claims should not have been recognized and properly investigated. They should have been but weren’t, perhaps foreign journalists were scared of the ramifications of just didn’t believe what they were hearing. Interestingly Donald Boström of Aftonbladet admitted he even doubted the veracity of the claims and didnt think the IDF was stealing organs. Then one Sunday night on Israel’s Channel 2 everything changed, sort of. An interview conducted with Yehuda Hiss, Israel’s head of forensics, years prior was release. In it he admitted to stealing organs from many Israelis and crucially from Palestinians killed during Intifada violence. After the release of the report the IDF and the government publically admitted that organ theft had taken place but had ended years earlier. The theft hadnt been directed purely at Palestinians but the fact that Palestinians, killed by IDF in violent fights, had their skin stolen and stuck onto IDF soldiers is scandalous on so many levels. The reaction to this new information was not what one would perhaps have expected. It passed almost without mention. CNN had a small article, Al Jazeera had proper coverage but I was unable to even find mention of it in Haaretz, one of Israel’s premiere newspapers. The story barely registered, which was telling because the coverage to Israel’s reaction to the initial unfounded claims was massive, it was basically an international event. Where was the press? It would seem Israel’s calling anti-Semitism is far bigger news than Palestinians having their skin, corneas and bones stolen from their bodies and returned with obvious measures to conceal the theft. This story has been so badly muddied by outrageous and unfounded claims that the real victims now go without their stories properly told. Supposed Palestinian supporters have already passed through, sucked every last drop of political capital and hate from the story and moved on. The real story lies under a pile of exaggerations, unfounded claims and pure hate speech. After a new report on anti-semitism the organ story is mentioned and dismissed as pure fantasy. Whereas the actual facts tell a different story, reporters and propagandists willing to suddenly create a huge conspiracy theory based on Israeli’s purposely selling these organs have ironically served the very country they claim to oppose. The cheap political shots have been harvested from this story at the cost of the truth and no one has gained anything. Again the victim is the truth, a fact supporters of Palestine should truly mourn. SOURCE
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#5933 - 03/09/10 06:19 PM
Re: Israeli Organ Theft, Debunking Media Myths
[Re: My_Lady]
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Rising in the Light
Registered: 12/16/09
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Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others, without the consent of their families – a practice it said ended in the 1990s – it emerged at the weekend.
The admission, by the former head of the country's forensic institute, followed a furious row prompted by a Swedish newspaper reporting that Israel was killing Palestinians in order to use their organs – a charge that Israel denied and called "antisemitic".
The revelation, in a television documentary, is likely to generate anger in the Arab and Muslim world and reinforce sinister stereotypes of Israel and its attitude to Palestinians. Iran's state-run Press TV tonight reported the story, illustrated with photographs of dead or badly injured Palestinians.
Ahmed Tibi, an Israeli Arab MP, said the report incriminated the Israeli army.
The story emerged in an interview with Dr Yehuda Hiss, former head of the Abu Kabir forensic institute near Tel Aviv. The interview was conducted in 2000 by an American academic who released it because of the row between Israel and Sweden over a report in the Stockholm newspaper Aftonbladet.
Channel 2 TV reported that in the 1990s, specialists at Abu Kabir harvested skin, corneas, heart valves and bones from the bodies of Israeli soldiers, Israeli citizens, Palestinians and foreign workers, often without permission from relatives.
The Israeli military confirmed to the programme that the practice took place, but added: "This activity ended a decade ago and does not happen any longer."
Hiss said: "We started to harvest corneas ... whatever was done was highly informal. No permission was asked from the family."
However, there was no evidence that Israel had killed Palestinians to take their organs, as the Swedish paper reported. Aftonbladet quoted Palestinians as saying young men from the West Bank and Gaza Strip had been seized by the Israeli forces and their bodies returned to their families with missing organs. The interview with Hiss was released by Nancy Scheper-Hughes, professor of anthropology at the University of California-Berkeley who had conducted a study of Abu Kabir.
She was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that while Palestinians were "by a long shot" not the only ones affected, she felt the interview must be made public, because "the symbolism, you know, of taking skin of the population considered to be the enemy, [is] something, just in terms of its symbolic weight, that has to be reconsidered."
Israel demanded that Sweden condemn the Aftonbladet article, calling it an antisemitic "blood libel". Stockholm refused, saying that to so would violate freedom of speech in the country. The foreign minister then cancelled a visit to Israel, just as Sweden was taking over the EU's rotating presidency.
Hiss was removed from his post in 2004, when some details about organ harvesting were first reported, but he still works at the forensic institute.
Israel's health ministry said all harvesting was now done with permission. "The guidelines at that time were not clear," it said in a statement to Channel 2. "For the last 10 years, Abu Kabir has been working according to ethics and Jewish law."
• This article was amended on 21 December 2009. The headline was changed as it did not reflect accurately the contents of the story. Nancy Scheper-Hughes's name was misspelled as Nancy Sheppard-Hughes in the original text.
Haitian orphans are going for 50$ nowadays! Wonder why jews went there the first, set up a surgical and the only one in Haiti?
You people are pure evil.
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#5958 - 03/10/10 07:26 AM
Re: Israeli Organ Theft, Debunking Media Myths
[Re: bubly]
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Charming Lady
Registered: 10/16/09
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Loc: Israel United States
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While harvesting organs without the permission of the families may be wrong, (who knows if their families were known?), it is a far cry from the NAZI death doctors who conducted experiments on living human beings with the end purpose of killing them. 60 years is not that long ago.
There are countless ages of cruelty. In the end, people die and their remains may go to help living humans ...but that is all lost because ...the end does not justify the means.
Also, many great medical advances have been made by Jewish doctors and scientists. Most of the time doctors don't know the "politics" of the people they are working on.
But then, I find people always quick to condemn others.
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#5967 - 03/10/10 09:53 AM
Re: Israeli Organ Theft, Debunking Media Myths
[Re: My_Lady]
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Combat Truth Vehicle
Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Somewhere in the Twilight Zone...
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While harvesting organs without the permission of the families may be wrong, (who knows if their families were known?), it is a far cry from the NAZI death doctors who conducted experiments on living human beings with the end purpose of killing them. 60 years is not that long ago.
There are countless ages of cruelty. In the end, people die and their remains may go to help living humans ...but that is all lost because ...the end does not justify the means.
Also, many great medical advances have been made by Jewish doctors and scientists. Most of the time doctors don't know the "politics" of the people they are working on.
But then, I find people always quick to condemn others.
As usual, you're full of kike shit! I guess those Rob-bi's caught with organs were an accident. Just like everything else kikes do. Kikes are pure evil and lie about everything. What about the experiments the Japanese did on the Chinese? The world revolves around the kikes! 55 million died in that war. The world is catching on to kike lies, that's why Sheenywood is cranking out yet more bullshit about the holohoax, etc... Kikes deserve what happens to them!
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#6415 - 03/21/10 04:15 PM
Re: Israeli Organ Theft, Debunking Media Myths
[Re: Cletus]
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Rising in the Light
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